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I'm a size 5 and I was hoping I'd get away with wearing a kids version for the cost-savings. So I initially order a size 4 big kids that is comparable to size 5 women (based on the Columbia footwear size chart). Nope, the size 4 big kids fits like a size 6 women... so I returned and ordered the size 3 big kids - nope, still too big, now comparable to size 5.5. I wanted a snug fit to benefit from the shoes' warmth (the omni heat inside and light fleece inner sole without wearing socks), but I can fit my whole hand between my foot and shoe. Also, yes even though they are slides, my heels pop out when I walk. It shouldn't if it has that small amount of shoe around the heel. I will size down again to a size 2 big kids. I guess I should've done the Try Before I Buy option.Other than the sizing being off, it's actually a great shoe. I like that the inner sole can come off and can easily be thrown in the wash. Quick to slip on/off for quick errands in the cold - big plus for daily flip flop users in the summer. :) The outside can handle splashes of water, but defintely not waterproof from downpours.Edited 1/21/24: got the size 2. Better than sz 3 and 4 however, Still too big and heel slips out. I give up, going to return and will try north face thermoball mule. Updating stars to 2.Edited 1/26/24: Got the North face thermoball size three in kids. Not as quick to slide your feet in, but it's a perfect snug fit!!